Registered: Mar 2005
at no point
How on earth would one isolate out a particular process, label it's functionality within the parameters of "it's system" and then discard all other processes which have been isolated out as irrelevant separate systems, and at the same time attempt to find the emergent pattern within the "chaos".
Does each system that is isolated out have it's own behavior and rules? or are there universal rules that are emergent in information transfer functions, whether or not they manifest within constructs of physicality?
Could these emergent rules exists in a non physical relation that extends beyond the physicality of the universe? And that the manifestations of physicality are simply chance assemblies of a finite systems which function within a particular set of rules which are sourced from the "Sea" emergent rules which exists independent of physical representations??
It seems that there is a problem in the way that things are formulated in thought, not that this can be transcended in an instance, but their is a limiting framework from which we can approach things with. For one, my experience with NKS has been that only under the possibility that there exists a framework, or universe, which is independent of physicality and composed of information transfer functions that are not necessarily in action, but available to systems which will allow those functions to arise, only with that type of permeability can we find emergent behavior which can relate complex processes together in a "new kind of way" a way that shows us something we do not yet know... But then again, I am all about hypothetical thinking, and non of what I say is based on fact.
The issue with the cell, it does not have initial conditions it self from scratch, but it inherits these conditions from it's ancestors. Are you then to say that at no point within the cells functioning would you be able to draw out emergent rules which explain it's interactions in a way that parallels the actual process which could be used to observe different degrees of the system under the same rule, and that only from observation of the ancestral gift would one be able to find emergent rules?
If so, then this is similar to what i was saying.
The DNA has many forms from which it could express it self through, not all of these forms are currently in existence, yet their must be some aspect of DNA which we could find that would allow us to see the emergent behavior in, say, two different systems. For example, we could see how various arrangements of DNA would lead to different systems, and from observing the differences in these systems we could classify a degree of variance, a degree of "flexibility" within cellular formation which would be in relation to the initial conditions of the DNA...
Perhaps it is simply our inability to interact with matter at that level that prevents us from learning more about it. We are relying too much on theories and not correlating enough with physical data, not that this data exists yet, which is why i say there is a limitation to how we approach things, and that limitation is within our tools which we use to observe with.
When we touch down at that level of cells we are course, and we are invasive, we are not silent observers, we need to find a way then to make an experiment which would observe cell interactions in much finer detail... There is some work being done on this at the University of Washington http://faculty.washington.edu/afolch/
which you might find interesting.
Links to UW's Center for Nanotechnology research topics: Biological Nanosystems
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