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(NKS pg. 6) humans = not special

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Posted by: Philip Ronald Dutton

I think that what is interesting about life as a human is that there is this sort of duality in relation to the idea of specialness.

For example, a creationist, by default, believes they are special because they were created. Surely if it so happened that there was this being who decided to create something, then (if the creation was capable of awareness, etc.) it is my bet that the creator will deem what it has created special. If I was that being who decided to create something then I sure would think that what I created was special. Seems pretty natural.

The flip side is that the creationist really does spend time pondering the fact that they are not 'special' in a certain sense of the word. They can merely pick up a chemistry book and remember that their bodies are composed of 'nothing special'.


Posted by: Gunnar Tomasson

Briefly, re. the following:

I think that what is interesting about life as a human is that there is this sort of duality in relation to the idea of specialness.

For example, a creationist, by default, believes they are special because they were created. Surely if it so happened that there was this being who decided to create something, then (if the creation was capable of awareness, etc.) it is my bet that the creator will deem what it has created special. If I was that being who decided to create something then I sure would think that what I created was special. Seems pretty natural.

The flip side is that the creationist really does spend time pondering the fact that they are not 'special' in a certain sense of the word. They can merely pick up a chemistry book and remember that their bodies are composed of 'nothing special'.

Comment:

The like duality is reflected in the NDS (Neo-Darwinian Synthesis) position in somewhat different fashion.

For NDSers

(1) believe that Man is neither more nor less than the most highly evolved form of what Carl Sagan represented as the hypothetical primordial slime from which ALL life is held to have evolved, and

(2) uphold and defend that viewpoint against all creationist alternatives with passion which is not evident in any other form of life.

Gunnar


Posted by: Philip Ronald Dutton

(Note: I am not trying to spark any debates here between creationists, darwinians, etc.)

I am pondering how creationism will be affected if NKS turns out to be the way the universe is working. I can not really think that NKS would put 'holes' in the creationist's theory. What's to say that if there was a creator that it would not have been allowed to create a universe which operated in an NKS fashion?

From what I have read there is some friction between things in Darwinian Theory and NKS but as of yet I have not read anything related to the creationist theory which is as specific as what I mentioned above.

Any thoughts (related to NKS ) ?




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