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Posted by: Craig Feinstein
Can anyone provide links to any other articles which talk about this unique phenomenon? I've never heard of it until now. Does this phenomenon exist with cellular automata?
Posted by: Tony Smith
The problem isn't finding examples. it is getting past the blinkered mindset of physicists who are "bewildered" or even just "surprised" more than 20 years after the publication of the late nobel laureate Ilya Prigogine's seminal Order Out of Chaos.
There is an interesting recent paper (pdf) by Prigogine's collaborator Isabelle Stengers which explains Prigogine's motivation to work within the proven framework of physics, thermodynamics in particular, to provide a consistent account of the formation of dissipative systems far from equilibrium as an alternative to the nouveau-vitalist notion of extropy which had been conceived by a weak analogy to entropy.
Emergent order is everywhere, maybe most conspicuously amongst physical systems in cloud formations and ocean waves.
And cellular automata are far too course-grained to provide anything beyond the crudest likenesses, but that does not mean we should stop looking for signs of emergent order in the universe of simple chaotic systems.
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